Jun 26, 2008

BITS branch preferences dmystified !

From my previous blog I have moved this post to all new blog. Info on other career paths, blog polls, placements, electives, higher education etc will be available on this blog. Keep watching this blog !!

After a long break of 4 months, I am back this time to write about the preferences to be used while selecting different engineering streams in BITS. I received quite a few queries regarding the dilemma many prospective students are facing while deciding on the preferences to be given to various branches of engineering at BITS. I was approached by few students who gave their BITSAT tests and wanted to have info about various courses that are being offered at BITS. Not just the info, they wanted to know most importantly what kind of preferences to be given for the branches (or call it as disciplines). This post will be useful for studs who arent able to decide on what kind of courses they should take. So lets start demystifying the preference order.

BITS is a kinda a place where apart from the regular academics you learn a lot from the extra curriculars. The flexibilities offered at BITS are innumerable. From no attendance to attending unregistered classes, bunking classes to attending surprise tests, one-night ghoting, 2am fried Maggi...no doubt i still miss those golden days a lot :(. I can assure the prospective students that they will have very fond memories with BITS once they pass-out.

Few of the notable flexibilities pertaining to academics is the option of having DUAL degree. This enables student to pursue engineering in 2 different areas. For eg. few of my friends have dual degrees in various areas like Mechanical + Computer Science, Mathematics + EEE, Economics + Computer Science. There is also an option to completely switch from one stream to other stream say from Mechanical to EEE or Chemical to Instrumentation. You have another option of continuing the undergraduate course and convert it into a post-graduate degree like B.E (Hons.) EEE to M.E (Hons.) Embedded Systems. Apart from this we have the compulsary and optional Internship programs at the end of second year and in fourth year. All these flexibilities allow the students to design their career paths as per their needs and interests. All these features has made BITS one of the most sought after colleges for engineering in India. Students who pass-out from BITS also have very bright chances to get into top notch colleges for higher studies in India and abroad.

Many students might have already gone through the cut-offs for various branches at BITS (both Pilani and Goa). Let us once have a look at the cut-offs for various disciplines. The following details is also given in the BITS website.
"The cut-off BITSAT scores for admissions to I Semester 2007-08 to different programmes are given below. This is given here for information on the request of many candidates."

Degree programme at Pilani Campus

Cut-off BITSAT-2007 score

B.E.(Hons.): Chemical

310

B.E.(Hons.): Civil

301

B.E.(Hons.): Electrical & Electronics

346

B.E.(Hons.): Mechanical

328

B.Pharm.(Hons.)

260

B.E.(Hons.): Computer Science

357

B.E.(Hons.): Electronics & Instrumentation

337

M.Sc.(Hons.): Biological Sciences

274

M.Sc.(Hons.): Chemistry

286

M.Sc.(Hons.): Economics

293

M.Sc.(Hons.): Mathematics

293

M.Sc.(Hons.): Physics

295

M.Sc.(Tech.): General Studies

288

M.Sc.(Tech.): Engineering Technology

292

M.Sc.(Tech.): Finance

281

M.Sc.(Tech.): Information Systems

299


Degree programme at Goa Campus

cut-off BITSAT-2007 score

B.E.(Hons.): Chemical

296

B.E.(Hons.): Electrical and Electronics

322

B.E.(Hons.): Mechanical

305

B.E.(Hons.): Computer Science

327

B.E.(Hons.): Electronics & Instrumentation

314

M.Sc.(Hons.): Biological Sciences

271

M.Sc.(Hons.): Chemistry

278

M.Sc.(Hons.): Economics

278

M.Sc.(Hons.): Mathematics

282

M.Sc.(Hons.): Physics

286

M.Sc.(Tech.): Information Systems

286

http://www.bitsadmission.com/admn/fd/cutoffscores.htm

Since the Hyderabad campus has opened the gates for the students from this academic year (2008-09), the cut-offs are going to come down a little more. What could be the expected cut-offs?? To understand this lets do some maths now! Nearly one-lakh candidates registered for BITSAT-2007 and 68,466 candidates had registered for BITSAT-2006. As per the statistics available with the BITS, inBITSAT-2006 only 155 candidates could score above 400 while 1,241 candidates scored more than 350. Candidates with scores above 300 were 4,715 while candidates with scores 250 and above were 11,696. Though the candidates eligible were quite good in number, some would have missed the pre-requisite of a candidate obtaining a minimum of aggregate 80 per cent marks in physics, chemistry and mathematics subjects in the Intermediate examination, with at least 60 per cent marks in each of the Physics, Chemistry, and Mathematics subjects. Now in 2007 the cut-off was around 275 (Lets consider only A-group and B-group streams) for Pilani and 271 for Goa. With 600 seats getting added (Hyderabad campus) I am expecting the cut off to come down to 255 - 260. But with 6 new IITs starting this year (tentative), another 700 seats will be available to grab ! That means the BITSAT cut-off can reduce further to around 245 - 250. But the cut-offs for popular streams like EEE, Computer Science, E&I, Mechanical might not come down. The general feedback says that BITSAT-08 exam was tougher than last year.

Now let us assume that a student X got around 310 marks and now has to give in the preferences of the various courses. The first foremost thing he should take care about is his career goals. Questions like career goals, ambitions, interests in specific fields etc. should be taken into consideration while deciding the preferences. But the general scenario is that the student coming out of 12th standard do not have much knowledge about the courses, and even if they have the knowledge then they cant decide on their areas of interest. So this student X is of similar type who does not have any specific interests in any field but has inclination to be in the most popular branches (EEE, E&I, CSC etc.). So here goes his preferences:
  1. B.E (Hons.) Computer Science - Pilani
  2. B.E (Hons.) EEE - Pilani
  3. B.E (Hons.) E&I - Pilani
  4. B.E (Hons.) Mechanical - Pilani
  5. MSc (Hons.) Mathematics - Pilani
  6. Msc (Hons.) Economics - Pilani
  7. Msc (Hons.) Physics - Pilani
  8. Msc (Hons.) Chemistry - Pilani
  9. Msc (Hons.) Biology - Pilani
  10. Msc (Tech.) Information Systems - Pilani
  11. B.E (Hons.) Computer Science - Goa
  12. B.E (Hons.) EEE - Goa
  13. B.E (Hons.) E&I - Goa
  14. B.E (Hons.) Computer Science - Hyderabad
  15. B.E (Hons.) ECE - Hyderabad
  16. B.E (Hons.) EEE - Hyderabad
  17. MSc (Hons.) Mathematics - Goa
  18. Msc (Hons.) Economics - Goa
  19. Msc (Hons.) Physics - Goa
  20. Msc (Hons.) Chemistry - Goa
  21. Msc (Hons.) Biology - Goa
  22. B.E (Hons.) Mechanical - Goa
  23. MSc (Hons.) Mathematics - Hyderabad
  24. Msc (Hons.) Economics - Hyderabad
  25. Msc (Hons.) Physics - Hyderabad
  26. Msc (Hons.) Chemistry - Hyderabad
  27. Msc (Hons.) Biology - Hyderabad
  28. B.E (Hons.) Mechanical - Hyderabad
  29. B.E (Hons.) Chemical - Pilani
  30. B.E (Hons.) Civil - Pilani
  31. Msc (Tech.) Information Systems - Goa
  32. Msc (Tech.) Information Systems - Hyderabad
  33. B.E (Hons.) Chemical - Goa
  34. B.E (Hons.) Civil - Goa
  35. B.E (Hons.) Chemical - Hyderabad
  36. B.E (Hons.) Civil - Hyderabad
  37. B.Pharm (Hons.) - Pilani
  38. B.Pharm (Hons.) - Hyderabad
  39. MSc (Tech.) Finance - Pilani
  40. MSc (Tech.) Engineering Technology - Pilani
  41. MSc (Tech.) General Studies - Pilani
Here goes the explanation for the above preference:
  • Higher preference for MSc courses (call it as B-group courses) of pilani because student X BITSAT score falls into that category exactly. Also getting a dual degree in few of the disciplines like Computer science , EEE or E&I is not difficult if you score good marks (we call it as CGPA - Cumulative Grade Point Average in BITS) in exams. In fact the marks (latest marks I could get) required to get dual degrees are:
    • EEE - 7.5+
    • Computer Science - 7.6+
    • E&I - 7.2+
    • Mechanical - 7+
    Note: CGPA of 10 is equivalent to 100%
  • These scores are applicable to students of B-group only. If a student wants to take dual within A-group (the B.E (Hons.) courses) then the scores can go as high as 9.2+. Likewise if a student wants to take a transfer to another A-group course, the score required is high (around 9.3+). Thus getting a dual degree using B-group is easier compared to other available options. An average student who studies regularly can easily get above 8.5 in BITS, atleast in first year as few of the subjects are foundation subjects. The only drawback is he needs to spend 5 years to complete the courses instead of 4 years. But I never consider this as a drawback because a dual degree student has the option to take internship of either 6 months (1 semester) or 12 months (2 semester). These internship are done in reputed organisations and many of them even get employed in those companies !! Thus effectively you are actually studying for 4 years + 1 year of real project work in various companies. Not a bad deal !!
  • Hyderabad though a new college can have an edge over Goa in terms of placement and other resources because of its geographic location. There have also been rumours that hyderabad campus will have world class faculty.
One important point to be discussed is now - what if two students have same marks? This has been explained in the BITS admission website:

"As explained earlier, a candidate who has appeared in BITSAT-2008 will be eligible for admission only if he/she gets the required minimum marks in the Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics or Biology subjects of 12th examination as per the eligibility criteria described already. All candidates who have appeared in BITSAT-2008 and are interested in admission will be required to submit Admission application with 12th marks and preferences to different degree programmes offered, on or before 30th June 2008, as detailed later in this brochure.

The merit position of such eligible candidates (i.e., those who have appeared in BITSAT-2008 and have submitted the application for admission in the prescribed form(s) with 12th marks, preferences and the required fees) will be prepared on the basis of their scores in BITSAT-2008. There will be two separate merit lists prepared for admission. One for all the programmes except the B.Pharm.(Hons.) and M.Sc.(Hons.) Biological Sciences, the other only for B.Pharm.(Hons.) and M.Sc.(Hons.) Biological Sciences. The cases of bracketing, if any, will be dealt with as described below.

When the score of two candidates are the same, first their scores obtained in Mathematics (if he/she has taken Mathematics in BITSAT) or Biology (if he/she has taken Biology in BITSAT) will be considered for separating them. If the scores obtained in Mathematics/Biology are equal, then their scores in Physics in BITSAT will be considered for separating them. If the scores obtained in Physics are also equal, then their scores in Chemistry in BITSAT will be considered for separating them. If still there is a tie, their PCM (if he/she has taken Mathematics in BITSAT) or PCB (if he/she has taken Biology in BITSAT) total marks in 12th examination will be considered for their separation."

http://www.bitsadmission.com/admn/brochures/BITSAT2008br.htm

Lastly the disclaimer part :). This list is based solely on my judgement and info from few of my friends who are studying in BITS currently and also few ex-Bitsians. The list does not reflect the course content quality or other issues. All these disciplines are taught by very good and experienced faculty in all the campuses. Students who have interest in specific streams like Civil, Chemical, Mechanical etc should give higher preference to those disciplines. I request you to discuss with your relatives, teachers and friends before filling up your preference order. Also go through the admission details and other important information on BITS website before submitting your preferences. Please do not rely solely on the college rankings given by various magazines as they can be very misleading. one last thing, BITS is on par with IITs and better than many NITs. So while deciding college and stream, give first preference to your interests/career/branch than which college to join. Feel free to shoot your queries :).

Updated news:

1. Check out this new video of BITS- Pilani:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=631141890851150255

2. For the students who wanted to know what is special of BITS and its culture, check this link -
http://www.livemint.com/2008/06/12000116/India8217s-Best-Colleges.html

3.
This attachement (.pdf file) gives the ranking for top 30 private engineering institutes. Please dont rely solely on rankings for college selection.
http://www.livemint.com/2008/06/12000116/76EAFEC3-3A7C-494C-A923-EFC04A6490B0ArtVPF.pdf




182 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi,
I got around 320 marks in BITSAT-08. I am very much interested in Computer Science. Based on the preferences given by you, i think mathematics or economics will be good. what do you suggest? Will i get these branches in pilani?

Saket

DeEpAk said...

Hi saket,

You have very good chances of getting Maths or Economics :). If you are very much interested in computer science, then you can also give a try for computer science hyderabad. Maths/Economics + Computer Science is one of the popular duals at BITS-Pilani and companies do prefer such students. :)

Anonymous said...

Gud post deepak..i guess rather than the post the comments section shud be more useful..make it more lively...

DeEpAk said...

Yes surely...i have requested the students to post their queries here instead of mailing it to me as this will help other students also in clearing their doubts.

Alekhya said...

great work Deepak..I do appreciate the work n interest shown by u for the freshers to BITS...!!

alok said...

Great work Deepak., I would have loved if you had given higher preference to EEE . Anyway this question is always debated one which one is better in BITS EEE or CS but anyway great infor should help fresher lot,
Alok

DeEpAk said...

Hi Alok,
As i said in the post, give first preference always to u r interests...then the other options can be adjusted.

Anonymous said...

Hi deepak,

My son secured 293 marks in BITSAT, i have gone through your post and it has cleared many of my doubts. Thank you for that. I had a doubt regarding few of the streams like MSc(Tech.) Finance and also Engineering Technology. The preference was given quite low in your list. why is that so?

vardhan said...

hi, deepak .what a great work.does B.E (Hons) means B.E +M.SC??. i am confused in this aspect.i am from Hyd .so do you advice me to give Hyd preference so that i can get my first preferences (as my score is 308).based on your post can i give preference to GOA over HYD..

DeEpAk said...

@Anonymous,
sir, MSc(Tech.) Finance is good but its not a kind of course which is easily recognised among the companies. Same is the case with Engineering technology..All the students of these disciplines get placed in good companies though.

DeEpAk said...

Hi vardhan,

B.E (Hons.) is an engineering course similar to B.Tech in AP. The dual degree course is referred as MSc (Hons.) & B.E(Hons.). As i told in the post, Hyderabad has an edge over other campuses due to its geographic location..but since your score is 308, i think you stand a fair chance to get into one of the MSc courses in Pilani itself.

Anonymous said...

Hi deepak,

Your post was very much informative. Thanks a lot!! Do BITS have any reservation quota or management seats?

Pavan

Anonymous said...

Hi Deepak,


I got 263 marks in BITSAT. I am little worried as i did not do my other exams well. Based on the approximate cut-offs given by you, i am doubtful if i will get any seat in BITS. How good are my chances to get a seat atleast in BITS-Hyderabad?

Ravi Chandran

vardhan said...

hi deepak .thank you very much 4 clearing my doubts .. i think the cut offs would go down by 8-15 marks..the CGPA concept is slightly confusing ..hope iwill understand stand it once i get into BITS

Anonymous said...

hello deepak,

I had a doubt regarding transfer option. Suppose i am in civil and i want to get transfer to instrumentation then will there is any course structure change for me after i take the transfer?

Anonymous said...

1) There is no such thing as reservation in BITS-Pilani. Regarding management quota, very few seats may be around 15(in pilani) are available only to children of faculty in BITS.

2) Hi ravi chandran you have very gud chances of getting admit in BITS,last year a student who secured 260 got an admit. Dont say atleast hyd, my guess is hyd wud be prefered to goa by many students. Give ur preferences as if u have to rate the courses based on ur interests, lets hope for the best.

3)Regarding Transfer option...
first thing u need to know is all the students who got admit in BITS will have the same course structure for the first year(even gud number of courses in second year and very few in third yr)...irrespective of their branch(its cald as 'Discipline' in BITS) so no need to worry abt course structure.
and for a civil guy to get a transfer to instrumentation he shud have his CGPA above 9 (min) and it depends on competition.. below 9 transfers are rare.. Computer science and EEE may require 9.8 approx sometimes

hope this clears few of ur doubts in the initial stages..

warm regards,
Vedi

Anonymous said...

hello sir,

My name is shashank and i scored 274 in BITSAT. I am very much interested to do dual degree. I have read the post and it has cleared lot of my doubts. Thank you. Do we have any provision for scholarships?

vedi said...

Hi shashank,

You will entitled to a merit-cum-need scholarship depending on ur performance..

if u maintain cgpa of 10/10 entire tution amount for tat semester will be given as scholarship, half the tution fee if ur above 9 etc (note sure of current details)..
every sem scholarship is based on ur performance of tat sem.

The govt of AP used to give pratibha scholarship, currently i guess its not giving.

Anonymous said...

hello sir,

Your post has been immensely useful for students like us. I wanted to know more about extra curricular activities at BITS. I heard that BITS has lots of extracurricular activities to take part. can u please let me know more about it?

Rahish

vardhan said...

hi, vardhan here . as my score is 308 i have decided to chooseCS out of my options my friends said that if you choose courses which are beyond your marks then you will be placed in the merit list . Is that true??? i want to do EEE (OR)E&I atleast in hyd.. i am oscillatinng between gao & hyd which to chose as my first option.. deepak said that hyd should be given preference so i have desided togo with hyd .. based on this will i get EEE (OR) E& I in hyd without being placed in the waiting list ..

DeEpAk said...

@rahish, BITS is full of extra curricular activities..if fact one of the very foundations of BITS education system lies in the fact that students are involved in various other activities. All the cultural,sports and science festivals are entirely organised by students. Mess and hostels are also taken care by the students. you are also involved in few of the administrative tasks of BITS. All these give you experience in varied fields. You have a special orientation session on various extra curricular activities in BITS during the BITS orientation session at the time of admissions.

DeEpAk said...

hi vardhan,

I dont understand what you mean by merit list, but yes there is something called sliding process in which if there are any vacant seats in any stream and if any student has given it a suitable preference then he will be automatically slided to the new stream. This process is very well explain in BITS admission site. EEE and E&I have almost the same courses except around 3 courses in third year. so these two streams are almost the same. you can reduce the gap further more by chosing your electives (subjects of u r interests) wisely.

DeEpAk said...

guys...I have received some queries thru mail few of which i posting here. This will benefit other students who have similar queries.

Ishani:
I scored 255 in BITSAT 2008. Do you think I can make it to the merit list? If not the B.E. courses, the M.Sc ones?
AIEEE went terribly.. I still might be managing to get into a Private college in Bengal. Besides, WBJEE results are yet to be declared.
Do you suggest I should go for engineering in a private college, or pursue a M. Sc in BITS/B. Sc in pure sciences? I am sure I'll get into one of the good colleges in Kolkata for the B. Sc courses, as my 12th Results are good.

Venkateswaran:
My Son Mahesh has got 276 in BITSAT and in AIEEE Karnataka rank 159 (AIR 7314). I am little confused about whether he should choose NIT, Surathkal or he should try any course in BITS, including M.Sc. I seek your advice. Thanks in advance.

Chandra:
i got 250 marks in bitsat 2008 can i expect civil in hyderabad campus

DeEpAk said...

@Ishani,

to be frank, your score lies near the cut-offs...but still there are good chances of making into BITS. BITS is definitely worthy than many colleges (private ones , NITS, few IITS) for engineering.You can pursue MSc in BITS and simulataneously take another Degree like computer science, EEE etc. This is one of the unique flexibitlities offered at BITS..As long as u r planning to go for higher education after u r graduation..BSc is ok..but i advise you to keep BSc as a last resort..meanwhile keep u r fingers crossed for BITS and also look out for good private and national colleges in bengal.

@vekateswaran,
sir,

BITS is better than almost all the NITS...i have few frens in NITS and i can assure you that the quality of education at BITS is very good. Also engineering is after all not only about studies but also abt overall personality developement that enables us to boldly face any hurdles in life.
276 is a good score and i expect that he would get one of the better MSc courses..
karnataka 159 rank is no doubt very good but i dun have much idea as what kind of seat he might get..I suggest you to ask u r son's interests before deciding on the stream.

@Chandra,
you have fair chances of getting civil in hyderabad.

Anonymous said...

Ohh Com'on Deepak,

Well it's a known fact that EEE at BITS-Pilani is far more better than CS there. Then did you choose CS over EEE in terms of priority. Well my message to the readers of this blog, go with EEE, if you can get it.

DeEpAk said...

BITS has got a very good faculty for Electronics. We have a dedicated VLSI lab which was funded by alumni members. The students of electronics stream are very well placed. Even CS has its own set of labs and has very good placement record. ppl shud give more preference to the stream in which they are interested to wrk.

Anonymous said...

Hi Deepak! Let me congratulate you on the excellent stuff you have put in the article. I am a little apprehensive about the placements in Goa and the commencing Hyderabd branches of BITS. What would be the avg package that one can expect if he is passing out of these 2 campuses say around 2012-13.

DeEpAk said...

hi,

Its a difficult question to answer even if you had asked abt pilani itself, coz the pay is decided by the companies based on the market conditions and demand for engineers. But I can assure you that the avg pay of any of the BITS campuses will be on par with well established colleges of india. Pilani will still have an edge over other BITS campuses..Hyderabad might also get better placements.

Anonymous said...

i wanted to ask if :
>i get b-tech mech. in goa should i opt for that or eee, ec in nit allhabad, or other nits.wanted to know ur opnion. thanx

Prerna said...

Deepak great work done. Indeed very useful. My score is 289. What are my chances in % terms of getting into BITS - any campus - any branch except M.Sc (Tech)other than Infosys.
2. This year the online format is different from last years. There are two forms - FES for Engg courses and FBS for Bio courses. We can fill both but give preference first to Form and then to courses. Thus if I give first preference to FES form, I have to indicate my all options for the courses there and FBS forms will follow only after that. Thus we cannot keep M.Sc Bio above Engg Service or Finance or Gen Studies. What to do ?
2. If I get Engg Service, Finance or GEN Studies in BITS and a BE course in NIT - what should I prefer ?

Anonymous said...

hi deepak..i scored around 240 in bits.can i expect any course in any of the three?

DeEpAk said...

For question regd. BE Mech in BITS-Goa or EEE,ECE in NIT allahabad.
Hi, indeed it will be tricky to choose between these two. i dont have much knowledge abt NIT allahabad..but i can give you some guidelines based on which you can evaluate urself :)
rate the colleges based on these factors:
1. Course curricula
2. College popularity
2. Placement scenario
3. Alumni contacts
4. Higher studies prospects
I can give the inputs abt BITS-Goa:
course curricula is same as pilani and the courses are very good. Placement scenario is satisfactory but considering that last year was the first placement season for GOA, it did pretty well. Alumni contacts...man..other colleges envy us for the kinda alumni contacts we maintain!! Irrespective of the location you still come under one big family called "BITS". Higher studies prospects are "very very" good. Consider this, many students from BITS have got admits in stanford, Michigan, LBS, Cambridge, Berkeley etc. in management and engineering fields. The alumni base spread over many countries help us in our higher education.

DeEpAk said...

hi prerna,
For the first question,
Your score of 289 is very good, you will get any of the MSc courses (excluding MSc Biology) available. You might also get few of the BE courses like chemical or civil. You may not go upto Engineering Technology, Finance and General studies unless you have given them higher preference than others :). One thing is for sure tht you wont keep FBS before FES hence the only other option you have is give FES preferences first then put in FBS. I suggest you to give last preferences for those 3 MSc(Tech.) courses.
For second question,
If at all you make it into those 3 MSc Tech courses, then BE courses from NIT will be a better option.

Hope it clears your doubt. Shoot in u r queries incase its not clear :)

DeEpAk said...

score 240 is little low to be frank. Keep your fingers crossed is all what i can say to you !! But meanwhile i suggest you to look out for other colleges in you state/city based on u r ranks in various entrance exams. You can also try for various NITS and few other reputed colleges from different states.

vardhan said...

vardhan sorry ,deepak ..in my earlier postit is not ''merit list'' but ''waiting list''. i could clear my doubt.. i understood that -suppose if you get a m.sc couse in some branch say in maths. at the end of first year based on your CGPA you can getsome other branch say in EEE ,do you still have persue m.sc in maths or can u opt out of it ..also a student persuing b.e in mechanical can go to m.tech in EEE ( I read in some website) but there is no such thing in application form ..does this come after 1st year [ based on CGPA]..

Anonymous said...

thanks a lot. i will definitely give first preference to FES bt in that i will not opt for M.Sc - Engg Ser, Finance and Gen Studies. After that I will fill up FEB form. One thing please help. Write about Hyd campus. I am very much interested in computers. So should i give Hyd - cs, eee, eni, infosys before Civil,chemical in Goa and Pilani. do u know about the present status of Hyd campus - infrastructure-hostels, classrooms, sports facilities, labs etc. Some say that for few months or may be a year, they will arrange some accommodation outside the campus and even classes from some makeshift arrangement. Do you have any definite info on that.

DeEpAk said...

Hi vardhan,

If you want to switch completely to BE degree from MSc degree..say u got MSc maths in first year..based on u r performance u were able to get Computer Science as dual. At this point you can either opt for dual degree or transfer from MSc maths to BE computer science. But the transfer from MSc to BE or for that matter any transfers in BITS requires high scores say around 92% plus. U cannot directly do ME-EEE(BITS does not have MTech) from BE-Mech. You can score high and take a transfer from BE-Mech to BE-EEE and then at the end of second year or beginning of third year, you can opt from ME integrated or BE + ME in EEE. Hope this clears your doubt

DeEpAk said...

BITS has always been a dream destination for students from south india especially AP. Hence even the govt. of AP is active in allocating all the necessary resources for completion of BITS-Hyd. The work is in full swing and i feel it shudn take much time before the campus is up and rocking ! Temporary arrangements might be there for sometime though. few notable features about new colleges (the ones coming from the established brands) is lower cut-offs for better disciplines, first hand experience in helping the college to settle down and also be the first ones to start new and fundoo activities..say clubs,departments,
associations,festivals etc. These help the students to mould themselves into not only pure technical engineers but but also gain some management insight ! :). I shall try n get some more info abt the Hyd campus progress.

DeEpAk said...

One of the query which i received is worth mentioning here:
My son score is 253 in BITSAT.Still he is complaining that 4-5 questions were wrong.I want to ask if BITS authority establishes that questions were wrong then how much marks they will give. Only 1 marks or 3 marks per wrong question or some weighted percentage.My son is intelligent but lack in labour. On 13th april while writing IIT,when he counted that he scored 225, he became happy and then attempted all black box type questions which resulted in 68 negative marks. So he did not qualify and screwed all the subsequent exams. Anyway,As a father I can motivate him only.He is desparate to join BITS any campous any course except pharma/biological course. What is his chance. Can dual will be confirmed to BE. Please use all your good experiences to answer my question truely and near to hard reality for which I shall be ever grateful to you.

DeEpAk said...

sir,

Regd. error in BITSAT questions, you can look in the bits admission website if they have any provision for such issues. Else if u r son is confident tht those questions were wrong, you can call the admission office and ask about it. 253 score to be frank is near border..and if those 3 to 4 questions were definitely wrong then the compensated score can greatly improve the chances of getting admission into BITS.

DeEpAk said...

Another good question,

I'm interested only in core sectors like civil..chemical...mechanical
And one more thing .....im interested only in BE(HONS)
Though i have given MSc in my 14 branch options but im seeking only for chemical engineering as im very much interested in it.Pls tell me about my chances at the pilani campus.

Thanks for ur last suggestion.....i went thru ur blog and found that even MSc is a good option
Also i wanted to ask u that if i do Chemical eng. at any campus.... will I be able to upgrade to mechanical or electrical after getting a good CGPA

DeEpAk said...

If you have interest in specific fields like chemical, petroleum, civil etc. i strongly advise you to go for it. Chemical have good placements to the likes of BPCL,IOCL,Bharat Oman refineries Limited, Schlumberger and others. These are core sector companies. Civil though doesn't attract much core companies but i have few friends who got placed in Unitech,DLF,Sobha etc.
These disciplines students no doubt will also get placed in the IT service companies and also get chances of getting placed in business analyst roles and consulting positions.

Anonymous said...

sir..i am from delhi
can u give me the order of preference for any branch out of the following

BITS-pilani
BITS-goa
BITS-hyderabad
DCE(delhi college of engineering)

DeEpAk said...

hi,
Order of preference should be based on branch and not on college. Assuming you are getting the same stream in all the colleges..i think you can give preference as BITS-Pilani, DCE, BITS-GOA, BITS-Hyd.

vardhan said...

it cleared my doubts,, thank you very much.. every day new and new doubts are getting in my mind 1)what is the difference between M.Sc (Tech) AND M.Sc (HONS) 2) a student getting into m.sc (hons) gets a B.E .. Then what does a student getting into m.sc(tech) gets??? 3)what does m.sc(tech )in information systems and that in engg.technology deals with ??

Chaiatnya K said...

Well written Roomie. I do agree with your views.

ppl if u really wish to know about the differences btn various streams, just go thru the BITS bulletin and loook at the courses. most of the course names are self explanatory.

After doing so if u are still confused pester this epitome of patience ;)

DeEpAk said...

MSc (Hons.) are the honourary science courses..MSc Tech. are developed for understanding of the new generation technology. more info abt them can be had from BITS bulletin and BITS admission website. Few of the MSc(Tech.) courses were started as per industry needs. MSc (Tech.) Information systems is one such example. Engineering technology deals with engineering on broader level where u get a chance to study few selected courses from various other disciplines. MSc Tech. students have the option to take dual within MSc Tech. group and nothing else. Generally ppl from Engineering technology, finance and general studies take dual with information systems. The percentage required for it is little high (around 90%). Starting from year 2006 BITS has introduced a system where C-group students can opt for dual in other group courses under certain conditions. Check BITS bulletin for more info.

raja said...

Hai 311 chances of cse at hyd bits

DeEpAk said...

Computer Science discipline is quite popular and will attract high score students. You may not be able to get CSE but alternatively u can try for dual degree. Since your score is good you can try for Maths and then take dual with computer science later.

raja said...

Hai Deepak,
Great site for Bits aspirants.Congratulations to U.my bitsat score is 311. I have claimed one question in maths during online exam.Score not yet been updated.What to do. Being at Nagpur can I prefer Hyd after Pilani.My interest is with CSE. My likely pref. will be .1.CSE 2.EEE.3EI4MECH(piLANI).5.CSE(GOA).6.CSE,7.ECE(HYD).8.EEE(GOA),9.EEE(HYD),10,E&i (GOA).MECH(GOA),12MECH(HYD).WHAT r my chances in no.4-5-6-7-8).Not intersted to take risk in dual.guide me further.correct me if I am wrong.
regards

DeEpAk said...

Hi raja,
I can say that you have fair amount of chances getting into those disciplines which you have mentioned. Computer science might little doubtful though..Mech has good chances..DUAL is not a risky option, i can assure you..an average student with regular prepartion can score very good at BITS, hence getting a dual shud not be a problem.

raja said...

Hi Deepak,
Thanks for the prompt and tangible reply.Incase I am offered 8th option (EEE at Goa) on 1 july and taken the admission. What r my chances of getting my options 7-6-5-4 over the waitlisted people after V/VI iterations.Also clear my other doubt.Suppose after my III iteration I am offered option 6th and accepted, further got option 5th after II iteration, which at that stage if I am not interested to accept, Can I be allowed to keep the option 5 as final.If so, can I still be allowed to be in the race for option 4 or there ends the matter.My Query my be slightly ambiquous but ur answer would be really beneficial not only to me but for many.
regards

DeEpAk said...

Hi Raja,

chances of getting slided after u r admission to EEE depends upon the admission of various other institutes say IITs and NITS. This is because the students who got good ranks in various other collges will opt the better among those. If their admission process is already done then you may have very bleak chances of any sliding. But if their admissions are not done then there will some sliding process. Also since new IITs are adding 700 seats, there is bound to be some sliding till everything settles around. I dont think you have an option to choose if during sliding process you are moved to another branch. It is based on preference order given by you and that preference order is final. Please check BITS website if there are any such options.

naresh yadav said...

hi this is naresh.my score is 265
can i get msc(economics) in any the three campuses?
at what date will the last counselling be completed?
i hope that you will sent the contact number of a person from vijayawada as requested in the email sent to u.please reply as soon as you can.
thanks fr ur exellent service.

Anonymous said...

hi deepak!!
u are doing really a wonderful job in clarifying d doubts regarding bits..
my son has scored 240 in bits.is there any chance in getting admission in any of the courses...

DeEpAk said...

sir,
240 marks are little less as the cut can be somewhere around 250s. Predications are always not correct :). keep your fingers crossed and wait n watch is all what i can say. Meanwhile i advise you to look for other colleges in local and also if u r son has scored good marks in other national level entrance exams, you can try for other reputed colleges.

DeEpAk said...

sir,
240 marks are little less as the cut-off can be somewhere around 250s. Predications may not be correct :). keep your fingers crossed and wait n watch is all what i can say. Meanwhile i advise you to look for other colleges in local and also if u r son has scored good marks in other national level entrance exams, you can try for other reputed colleges.

naresh yadav said...

i think you have missed my comment.
day after tommorrow i am going for another deemed university(amrita-coimbatore)to pay full fee as i got cse there.if you give me the answer to my above comment i can request the university authorities for seat cancellation or final date extension.

DeEpAk said...

"Amrita college is considered to be one of the better colleges in tamil nadu. Ranked consistently among top 10 of TN, it boasts of good infrastructure, faculty and placements. The quality of students if good. Computer science department of this college is considered to be very good followed by electronics." - This info is from one of my colleagues who is from TN. I am not sure what kind of seat you might get in BITS based on you score. The least cut-off in MSc courses last year was around 280. I suggest you to ask for some extension period from that college. make sure you get enuf extension time so that you come to know about bits results also.

Anonymous said...

I got 369 in BITSAT-08. Do I have good chances of getting Computer scince at BITS-Pilani. In addition to PCM, is it compulsory to have 80% in English (CBSE 12th) as well to be eligible for admission at BITS.

DeEpAk said...

First of all let me congratulate you in getting good score! you stand a definite chance for top 3 disciplines. Based on last year cut-offs, i am quite sure that you will get computer science in pilani ..regd. the percentage requirements in english, please check the BITS website..if you dont find any info then do let me know.

Anonymous said...

Hi deepak thanx for your reply. I have searched all sites related to BITS. In the eligibility criteria they mention 80% aggregate in PCM with at least 60% in individual subjects which I have got. They also write 'adequate proficiency in English but no mention of percentage. I have 78% in English and therfore worried. Pl. clarify.

DeEpAk said...

unless they dont mention any cut-off percentage for English, it is safe to assume they did not keep any cut-offs. Last year there wasnt any cut-off percent for english. I guess by tht statement they want to make sure that students who get admitted to courses should have decent command over english.

naresh yadav said...

hi brother sorry for asking this question repeatedly,but iam in extreme need forthe answer so that ican fix my extension dates and to try for other institutions.
when can be the approximate date for the lastcounselling be completed for bits?
also is msc(biology) a difficult course for M.P.C students?
also is it good to take that course?

DeEpAk said...

Hi,
I cant tell you the fixed dates but suppose june 30 is deadline for preferences then the first list comes in july first week..u need to pay the fees if u wanna join..then after the fees deadline lapses (around july 2nd week) second list comes..and then after registration (around july last week to august first week) the third list comes. Exact dates is difficult to get. Second one is generally considered final as there will be very little change in the third list.

Krishna said...

I hav read somewhere in BITS Forum that Msc (Phy)is a tough one compared to other MSc's ie Maths chemistry etc. Kindly clarify and elobarate about this perception
Siddhant

akshay said...

i got 304 in bitsat 2008. can i get cse in hyd??when do u opt for dual degrees?is it after the end of the first yr? wat do is most gettable branch in hyd?

DeEpAk said...

MSc Physics is relatively tough but dual with EEE or E&I makes it an attractive combination. Though it is little tough, the professors make sure that you sail smoothly thru the courses.

DeEpAk said...

You choose the dual degree option at the end of first year and the results would be known during summer vacations. You have bright chances to get MSc in pilani itself. I suggest you to try pilani and then look for other BITS brances.

rajap said...

Hi Deepak,
thanks for the reply.I am the same Raja.I could not send the comments through my user name.It says password is incorrect.How to resolve I dont know.Anyway.I am interested to know the tentative cut off for all the branches (A group) in all three campuses taking into consideration of all factore (new iits , new bit etc).I am interested to choose Bits hyd after bits pilani campus.Pl.suggest.Score as U know it is 311.When Bits people give other statistics like number of students scored above 300 etc.Also enlightened me if I am alloted seat in Goa after 4 iteration and joined.Can I be allowed to shift the campus If I get Pilani in V iteration.Kudos to U for your deligent and pragmatic reply.Fantastic....
regards

rajap said...

Hi Deepak,
One important thing I want to know is the cut off score 2007 given in bits web and ofcourse in ur blog was the one after the final iteration of 2007 or after Ist iteration.Pl.clear my doubt.Thanks

DeEpAk said...

Hi Raja,
Tentative cut-offs are difficult to predict but if you wanna give a try, i think you can cut 5 to 10 marks from the cut-offs for various disciplines of last year. The cut-offs for top 3 to 4 disciplines might not change. Cut-offs and stats are given by bits admin only after the admission and sliding process is completed. If during sliding process you get a stream and for that you need move to other campus then you will asked to go to the respective campus.

rajap said...

Thanks for ur nice reply.From that I safely presume that cut off of Hyd.will be around 35-40 marks? less than Pilani campus of the respective branch.Am I right.It is just a rough calculation.U may be a better person predict the score in a precise way.Anyway ur answer is tangible and clear almost all my doubts.Thank U.Pl. tell me between Goa and Hyd. which one has to choose first of the same branch, consider food and location, accessibility and future growth prospects.I am from Nagpur.PILANI campus is 'undoubtly my first choice.
Thanks.

Anonymous said...

is ismu dhanbad better than bits??

rajap said...

Hi Deepak, I have really forgotten u r from Hy'bad.Please.visit the Bit pilani, Hyd campus and give ur first hand report on all aspects for the benefit of bits aspirants.I hope u r in Hyd at present.
regards.
RAJA

DeEpAk said...

Hi raja,
Around 15-20 marks for MSc, 20-30 for MSc (Tech.) and 0 to 20 marks for BE degrees if you want me to guess. Goa has the advantage of experience, future growth, accessibility. Hyd is a new entrant but can have good prospects in placements, future growth..If i need to choose i go by gut feeling n choose hyderabad..also hyderabad is my native place :)

DeEpAk said...

I work in bangalore and goto hyderabad very frequently. But I may not have time to visit hyd campus. I shall try though.

DeEpAk said...

AFAIK dhanbad institute has courses dealing with mines and mining industry. Unless student has prior knowledge and interest in this field, they should better opt for other popular courses. I would rather prefer BITS in this case.

rajap said...

Thanks for all the replies.Nice,prompt with clinical precision. U R Gr8.
regards.

nagarjuna said...

hi,
please tell me about msc(biology).can we do dual with it? msc(economics),msc(biology)which one is good to take?
should we know basics about biology to take msc(biology)

DeEpAk said...

you dont need to have any basics of biology for MSc Bio though having it will be an advantage. BITS will teach you all the required foundation courses for Bio . One can choose between bio and economics depending upon his interest. But since majority of engineering aspirants are the ones who have maths, physics and chemsitry as +2 courses, they generally wont like Bio courses. You can take any dual degree with MSc Biology. I have few frens who have MSc Bio with other engineering degrees dual like instrumentation, EEE, chemical etc.

naresh yadav said...

brother i thought msc(biology)is different from engineering stream,so while filling FES(all degree programmes except B.pharm.hons and msc.hons.biological sciences)and FPB(B.pharm.hons and msc.hons.bioogical) forms i opted for FES.he clearly mentioned,if once we opt for one and confirm it cannot be changed.he gave an option to fill both FES and FPB forms but due to ignorance i filled only FES.my score is 265 so i cannot expect other msc courses except biology as its last year cut off is just 271.is there any way to rectify this by contacting authorities.
is it better to take cse in amrita-coimbatore or msc(biology)in bits.however i have some interest on the institute bits.i am naresh ,last time my brother nagarjuna gave comment.plz give me suggestions

Adwait said...

HI Deepak
I have got 306 in Bitsat 2008.
Do you think i will get EEE at Bits Goa ?
My next option is Goa mech. If not EEE then Will i get Mech ?
By the way u have put together a great site. Plz reply. Thanks !

vedi said...

hi naresh i dont think u can fill FPB now.. but for 265 u can expect a dual degree may be in goa or hyd.
and i suggest u to join BITS though its a dual degree...let me tell u few things here.. one of my frnd and batchmate, a Bpharm ite did take electives of Computer Science and stood as topper in most of the courses and he is well placed in a gud start up firm with gud package..similarly another frnd in engineering technology did the same.. so u have lot of flexibility in BITS tat allows you to take courses of ur choice ofcourse few limitations are there but minute..

Hi Adwait for 306 i think u might get mech in Goa not sure though.. i dont think u will get EEE in Goa.. if u really want to pursue EEE or for tat matter even Mech, u can do tat by taking up dual..so u fill ur preferences based on ur interests..its gud if u get them otherwise also tension kyun dual hai naa...

tarun said...

hi deepak,i got 341 in bitsat,wat shud my preferences be,im frm ap,my preferences are cs pilani and next cs hyderabad,is it ok,im more interested in computer science

Rohit said...

Hi Sir,
I have 292 marks in BITSAT 2008,
I am not intersted in M.Sc & B.E.(only Civil rest will do) Courses.
So, please give me the preference order for the admission form.
I have 16727 AIR in AIEEE 2008, what do you suggest for this rank???
Please respond soon!!!

Thanks
Rohit (Indore)

vedi said...

Hi tharun , for 341 i guess u will get csc in hyd..since ur interested in csc go fr it, pilani first , hyd second and goa third .. gud thinking..

hi rohit i guess u will get civil in BITS hyd.. civil is not there in BITS goa..and civil in pilani u might not get.. i am not the right person to suggest abt AIEEE but a rank of 16000 might not give u gud options than bits.. u can even go for a dual and do civil in bits pilani..brand name fetches u a lot in branches like civil..give it a thought the kind of faculty in BITS , u will not get any where except in IITS (few)

atul said...

hi,
i got 288 in bitsat08. can i get
msc phy/maths dual at pilani???
do i hav any chance of 4 yr be at
pilani campus??
in which councelling do they give
updated scores(increasd if applicable) ???

shailen said...

hi deepak,
my bitsat score is 277 and aieee rank is 11,221.wat r my chances of gettin in pilani campus.i put goa before hyd in my preferences.

Ashish said...

Hello Brother,
I am Ashish, scored only 253. Now Bitsat is over and U must have consolidated yr cut-off calculations. kindly tell me about my chance for duals anywhere. Also I am a repeater,is it prudent to join dual and consume another 5 years just to get a basic dual BE degree?

vedi said...

Hi atul, u have fair chance but not sure about pilani. Can you elaborate more abt updates scores etc, i didnt get u.

hi shailen, U will get an admit in pilani campus, but which branch r u asking about?

Hi ashish, i can only say u have chance to get dual may be in goa or hyd and also assuming tat u filled both FES and FPB.. see dual degree is for 5 yrs agreed but dont think its a waste of one yr.. coz most of the dual degree people will do internship(gud stipend too) in their final yr(through out the year), u will get gud corporate exp and u study only one sem extra on campus compared to people who are doing a 4 yr course.. so dont discount the dual option thinking its a 5 yr course and ur a repeater. All teh best.

praja said...

Hai Deepak good morning,

Yah, Still not filling the online form.confused between choosing goa and hyd.Still give an edge to hyd.What would be the cut off mark difference between the CSE of goa and Hyd. It is about 30 marks between pilani and goa last year for 2007 CSE.Can we expect similar gap between Goa and hyd this year.please clarify.
regards
raja

atul said...

whats the expected cutoff of
msc dual phy at pilani campus????

praja said...

Y silence Deepak,
say some thing.Perhaps calculating the cutoffs.When bits web publish the statistics about marks scored by aspirants.Any rumours about this year students performance as compared previous year.Give ur research.I am really impressed about ur blog.

Thanks RAJA

vedi said...

Hi Praja,

I dont think similar gap of 30 marks wud exist this time, the number of people giving BITSAT and teh number of people who got scores above 350 are more this yr.Also hyd is sort after by many students than goa this time,coz the placements will be better since hyd is an emerging city for many corporations to set up their offices, second its in a city,life will be better and third many people from hyd and close to hyd opt for hyd..close to parents etc
BITS will publish only after the admissions i guess, or atleast only after june 30th ( not sure though)..
Its not easy to arrive at cutoffs especially when a new campus is setup in a place like hyd..overall all the cutoffs(except for EEE,CSc,ECE,E&I) will be lowered by 5- 10 marks.
This shud answer Atul's question too..

shailen said...

hi vedi,
thanks for replying to my question.im open to any branch in pilani.pls tell wat branch can i expect in pilani.r u sure that i will get in pilani.

waiting for reply.

shailen said...

im sorry i forgot to ask u whether i should prefer MSc.economics to MSc.info systems or vice-versa.

vedi said...

Hi Shailen,

In pilani u might get Msc.Bio(assuming u filled both fes and fpb), seeing the last yr cutoffs.. but as i see many people opting for hyd this time, u have a chance to get other dual degrees as well, MSC. Info Sys is gud degree which is sort after by many after the eee,cs,e&I,ECE ..so u might not get it for ur score..so its better to wait until u got admit and let me know what u got..i can sugest u more interms of how to go abt it...etc..

shailen said...

hi vedi,
thanks for ur reply.but i filled only FES & not FPB.can i expect the duals in pilani.if not pilani atleast in goa.In my preferences i gave B.E PILANI,MSc.PILANI,B.E GOA,MSc.GOA & then hyd in the similar way.

atul said...

whats better option???
msc phy dual@pilani campus
btech-eee/mech/ece@nit
(warangal/trichy/suratkal)

kunal said...

hi sir,
i got 324 in bitsat. do u think i will be able to get mech at pilani.

DeEpAk said...

@shailen, You have very bright chances of getting dual in one of the campuses. The chances to get in pilani are little less though.

@Atul, Well if you are looking purely from academics point of view then they might stand at the same place but engineering life is one of the most important stages of your life By selecting proper college you will learn about many other things like teamwork, planning, preparation, friends, multitasking etc., apart from the regular academics. I have said that getting a dual degree is not very tough, this does not mean that it will be a cakewalk. You need to score the minumum cut-off grades to get u r desired dual. Thus this aspect adds a little bit of uncertainity to dual. i would prefer to choose BITS over NITs.

@kunal, You have fair degree of chances of getting mech in pilani.

rajaa said...

Hai, Good morning
every morning when I try to post a comment It give me wrong pass word.I have to open new google ac.How to solve this problem.I love to post my comment every day but it gives me a problem.Please solve this too if possible

By the by, For 311 in bitsat. What Can I expect in the first list.A group is my first choise.Pilani. (top 4), Hyd (top 4)followed by Goa (top 4).Please give me an idea.
Ur replies are crystal clear and very beneficial to the readers. Also ur rating between civil and chemical considering the demand and offer.
Thanks.
Raja

rajaa said...

Hi Deepak/Vedi,

I am on line.Can I have ur reply please.Also Tell me Out of Ece-eee & mech in Hyd.Is there any chance of getting one of the three in the first list on july first for the bitsat 311 marks.Also Mr.Deepak mentioned that number of people scored above 350 is more this time.How much this will change/compensate the cut off considering other factors like new bits, new iits etc.Pl.enlighten me.May be U have given some idea about cut off earlier too.Hoping U might have got some more new informations by now. I a tempted to ask again.
regards
Raja

DeEpAk said...

311 will not fetch you any of the top 4-5 branches in the first iteration. chemical and civil has good demand..
with govt giving high importance to infrastructure and allowing FDI in realty and infrastructure areas, it has opened up a huge number of opportunities for civil engineers. With growing demand for oil, major thrust on green initiatives and also opportunities in regular chemical industries, chemical engineering has been considered one of the evergreen engineering branches like mechanical. These engineers can also become consultants in their areas of expertise.

rajaa said...

Hi,Thank U.I have to apply today.My confusion is whether to give civil just ahead of chemical.As per my inner consience I just drafted a list.I would rather happy if I get any one of the A group in 1st iteration in any one of the campus. Here is my pref.in the A group.U can go through, correct and guide me.
1. B.E (Hons.) Computer Science - Pilani
2. B.E (Hons.) EEE - Pilani
3. B.E (Hons.) E&I - Pilani
4. B.E (Hons.) Mechanical - Pilani
5. B.E (Hons.) Computer Science - Hyderabad
6. B.E (Hons.) Computer Science - Goa
7. B.E (Hons.) ECE - Hyderabad
8. B.E (Hons.) EEE - Hyderabad
9. B.E (Hons.) EEE - Goa
10. B.E (Hons.) E&I - Goa
11. B.E (Hons.) Mechanical - Hyderabad
12. B.E (Hons.) Mechanical - Goa
13. B.E (Hons.) Civil – Pilani
14. B.E (Hons.) Chemical - Pilani
15. B.E (Hons.) Civil - Hyderabad
16. B.E (Hons.) Chemical - Hyderabad
17. B.E (Hons.) Chemical - Goa
Thank U,
Regards,
RAJA

vedi said...

Hi Raja,

U can expect mechanical in goa and also in hyd.
I do understand ur eagerness to know all such info..but let me tell u,we dont have ne clue of such data, we can share our experience but tough to predict the cutoffs.All u can do is put preferences according to ur interests and wait for the day..
If u still want to know something in particular, put it across we shall answer it..but pls understand we cant generalize things and predict cutoffs..it will only mislead other aspirants who are following this blog..
To be frank, my gut feel says for 311 its not easy to get EEE,CSC,ECE and E&I in any campus, but sometimes lady luck might favor u..
Keep u r options open..stay relaxed, u r going to study in BITS and u have a bright future ahead (irrespective of branch)..

kunal said...

thanx for the reply, you are doing a great job ,highly commendable.

Arun said...

Gr8 work deepak...well actually I wanted 2 ask u this...i heard from a student willing to join BITS that BITS-Pilani is gonna shift its main campus as in to HYD and not at Pilani...this did freak me out..but plz can u temme if u know any thing abt it...

DeEpAk said...

For sure shifting of main campus to other place is not going to take place. with more than 50 years of experience at Pilani the idea doesn even luk attractive to shift the campus. The world knows BITS as BITS-Pilani :). Faculty transfers are a part of such expansion plans. Experienced faculty has the choice to go to new campus so that they can benefit the campus from their experience in academic as well as administrative activities. BITS-Hyd will have world class faculty.

Anonymous said...

MY son has got 295 and he is interested in cs or mechanical. Any chance in any of the campuses. He has aieee rank of 8843. Do BITs release the statistics/frequency distribution?

Anonymous said...

MY son has got 295 and he is interested in cs or mechanical. Any chance in any of the campuses. He has aieee rank of 8843. Do BITs release the statistics/frequency distribution?

samvit said...

Hi
i have scored 258 in bitsat 2008. is there any chance of getting a seat in a any bits? please clarify about second and third counselling cutoffs.

naresh said...

what is the difference between msc(hons)and msc(tech)?can we do dual with msc(tech)?

kunal said...

hi sir,
i would like to know abt. course structure(which i can understand) for mechanical degree in bits pilani.

Anonymous said...

Hi Deepak
I am a good at studies but due to chicken pox just before BITSAT I could not study welland scored only 252 in BITSAT 08. Please suggest me what preference I should give and what are the chances. After getting admissions I will like to score well and migrate to better course.

Rakesh

DeEpAk said...

Hi,

295 may not get your son the top four branches (EEE,CSE,E&I,Mech), but u r son can try dual by opting for MSc courses and then choosing the dual at the end of first year. BITS releases the stats, the last year cut-offs are given in the bits website.

DeEpAk said...

Hi samvit,

As told earlier, predicting cut-offs is like predicting weather conditions. On a safe side i assume the final cut-offs to go around 245 to 250. You have good chances to get a seat in one of the campuses.

DeEpAk said...

Hi Naresh,

Please check one of the comments where similar doubt was asked. I am posting the contents here again:
MSc (Hons.) are the honourary science courses..MSc Tech. are developed for understanding of the new generation technology. more info abt them can be had from BITS bulletin and BITS admission website. Few of the MSc(Tech.) courses were started as per industry needs. MSc (Tech.) Information systems is one such example. Engineering technology deals with engineering on broader level where u get a chance to study few selected courses from various other disciplines. MSc Tech. students have the option to take dual within MSc Tech. group and nothing else. Generally ppl from Engineering technology, finance and general studies take dual with information systems. The percentage required for it is little high (around 90%). Starting from year 2006 BITS has introduced a system where C-group students can opt for dual in other group courses under certain conditions. Check BITS bulletin for more info.

DeEpAk said...

Hi kunal,
Regd. course structure and other info you can go through the BITS bulletin which gives all the details regd. any engineering branch. In a snapshot:
1. First year deals with all bridge and foundation courses, common to all the disciplines (Except C group)
2. Second year deals with some of the basic engineering courses, common to all the disciplines (Except C group)
3. Third year deals with all the core subjects that are purely related to your discipline
4. In fourth year, one semester is for thesis or internship (called as practice school) and other semester is to complete the required number of electives. Here you can choose courses which may not be related to your discipline but you wish to do for your interests.

DeEpAk said...

Hi rakesh,

Your score lies near the borders. But this is all assumptions..and please dont solely rely on this. The cut-offs might go down till 240 also!
Please check the post which can provide you guidelines to fill the preferences.

kunal said...

can u compare iiit cs and bits cs? i wanted to know abt iiit ,someone told me that studies there are very hectic and u don't get to enjoy college life? bits is much better that way and also bits has gr8 placements.

DeEpAk said...

Hi kunal,
Few IIITs like IIIT-Hyderabad has good infrastructure for Computer Science and their placements are also good. But such institutes deal with only specific engineering branches like computer science, electronics etc. They may not have the other disciplines like mechanical, chemical. This could be one of the disadvantages as the scope of your learning will then get shrunk to only few branches.

Anonymous said...

Hi Deepak,
Great Job. Made understanding BITS easier. My score is 247. Should I give Msc(biological Sciences)dual degree in Hyderabad as first preference or in Goa? In the dual degree scheme can i take E and C /E and I/ E and E by taking Msc. economics or Msc biological sciences. Please guide.Being a science student can I study economics and still score high enough for dual degree?
Minal

shailen said...

hi deepak,
with a score of 277 can i expect MSc.economics in pilani or the other duals in pilani(i didn't fill FPB).I put hyd at the end of my preferances since it is a new campus.please reply whether i can get in pilani

tarun said...

hi deepak,statistics for this year bitsat have been released, cn u comment on cutoffs this year

http://www.bitsadmission.com/admn/bitsat/statistics.htm

and last year statistics are given here

http://www.mayank.co.nr/Bitsat.Stats.txt

DeEpAk said...

@minal,

Unless they(BITS authorities) have mentioned abt any restrictions in dual options, you can assume that MSc students are eligible for any BE courses. MSc Economics and Biology are structured keeping in mind abt the students background who join for such courses. Being a science student you study economics/biology and still score high enough for dual degree.

@Shailen,
The chances are little less that u will get MSc in Pilani, but u might get the same in other campuses.

rajan said...

hi!
is there any kind of scholarships available at bits pilani campus for reducing fees and allplease give complete description
thank u

vedi said...

Hi Minal,

As we already mentioned before, for you to get a gud BE degree as dual your first year percentage is important and first year is almost common for every one in the batch irrespective of your branch. So you wont be doing economics related courses right from your first year, u need not worry abt it.

Rajan,

About scholarships as i already mentioned in one of the previous post, there is a merit scholarship from the institute depending on your percentage(its called cgpa which is calculated on a scale of 10)so if u get 10/10 gpa in first sem u get ur tution fee for tat sem refunded, anything below 10 and above 9 i guess its drastically reduced upto half the amount of your tution fee(u have chk this once u enter BITS,dont know the current situation)so this is based on your previous sem performance every time...
Few people less than 5 i guess might get adita birla scholarship and its not easy to get tht.

shailen said...

hi deepak,
the bitsat 2008 statistics are on the bits website so wat is my chance of gettin a seat with a score of 277. or should i go for aieee(air 11,221)

waiting 4 reply

DeEpAk said...

Hi shailen,

I am yet to do some analysis of latest statistics available. Shall post as soon as i come out with some info. But you have good chances of making into BITS. AIEEE rank 11231 might not fetch you a better seat than BITS.

DeEpAk said...

Hi tarun,

You have raised a nice question which unfortunately is very diffucult to answer. Moreover with addition of new IITS, 1 new BITS campus, also increase in number of seats in various other colleges the guessing becomes more difficult. All these facts may bring down the cut-offs compared to last year. Let us compare this year's performance with the last year:
>=400 marks ---> 23% decrease in number of students
>=350 ---> 23% decrease
>=300 ---> 13% decrease
>=250 ---> 3.4% increase
They did not reveal the number of students who wrote BITSAT this year. As there is considerable decrease in 350+ candidates ,it can have impact on the cut-offs of the popular engineering disciplines. The number of students who crossed 300 have decreased by more than 10% compared to last year. There is also a marginal decrease in 250+ students. Besides this the other factors like new IITS (around 700seats), BITS (around 600 seats) etc wil bring the cut-offs further down. So this could mean good news for people who scored 245+ as the chances of getting seat in BITS has become even more bright. To guess which discipline you can get, you can subtract around 5 to 10 marks from previous year cut-offs and check which discipline according to your preference might come for you.

kunal said...

with new stats out from bits can we expect a decrease of 6-10 marks(maybe more) in core branches like cs, eee, e&i, mech. in pilani? i hav got a score of 324, last yr mech., e&i at pilani were 328,337 respectively. i think i will get mech but can i also get e&i.
which do u think is a better course among the two?

Anand said...

Hi,
As a current BITSian I fully agree with your preferences order. There is a misconception even amongst the BITSians that B group is not good in terms of prospects. This post will help some way in alleviating that concern.

NS said...

Hi.
The number of people registered was about 1.16 lakhs (got it from somewhere on BITS site). However, all would not have appeared as in previous years around 10-15% did not take the test. Probable number would be around 90-95 thousand I guess.
Thanx for all your guidance. This is a very tough year to make predictions!

AVINASH said...

MY SCORE IS 253 WAT CAN I EXPECT

DeEpAk said...

Hi kunal,

Between E&I and Mech..its first upto you what are u r interests in. E&I as i said earlier is almost similar to the course structure of EEE. you will have future scope in eletronics, VLSI, Embedded, Communications, Automation, Instrumentation. Mech on other hand has future scope in Mechatronics, Automobile design etc., Placements are good for both but better for E&I.

Animesh said...

hi,
this is amit. i scored 302 in bitsat 2008. do i have any chances of getting BE(hons)in civil oe chemical in pilani campus.
please reply.
thx 4 the info.

Anonymous said...

Hey,
I got 257 in bitsat and 5415 in aieee with state rank 1088(A.P).I am applying for counselling and need some help for the preference order.(5 best options will do).Also wanted to ask whether my aieee rank will fetch me something good.
NIKHIL

Yashas said...

Hey Deepak, nice work!!
I have given BITSAT this year and have secured 265. Can i get atleast a dual in Hyd Campus? Not many have scored in the 260s range so i didn't get an answer from your blog. What are my chances? Pls reply!!!

rajaaa said...

Hai Deepak,
Good morning,
thanks for all the suggestions.I may be getting mech in NIT and also hoping to get Mech or E & I in BITS hyd.(311 MARKS).Ur expert comments.I have preferred hyd over goa.With the statistics now out .What is probability of getting cs or ECE in hyd with the marks of 311.
thank U.

rajaaa said...

DEAR DEEPAK,
I am eager to see ur reply and other expert comments.Somehow ur blog activated all of us in a full swing for bits.Also pl.unbiasedly evaluate bits hyd.campus with any top NITS.U r deserving all sort of appreciation for this wonderful blog.
regards
RAJA

Anonymous said...

i got 351.my preference order is.
CS
eee
mech.
E&I
I gave preference to mech. coz some of my frnds in BITS(now entering third year) suggested that
companies in Placements prefer EEE students over E&I although they study the same stuff.And E&I is a kind of hard working less paying kind of branch means alot of study involved.

What are ur views??????

DeEpAk said...

Hi
@ kunal,
Both the disciplines are very good and established. If you have interests in chips,mobiles,processors then E&I is better option and if you are inclined towards gears and shafts, automobiles etc then opt for Mech.

@ Anand,
It would very good if people like you from BITS campuses involve in this discussion as you ppl are students in BITS currently.

@ NS,
Yes indeed, the predictions for this time are very tricky.

@ Animesh,
You can check the previous year cut-offs and guess on your own. You have fair chances of getting civil/chemical/mech at pilani campus.

@ Nikhil,
your score is little less. You might get a seat in NITs based on your AIEEE rank but predicting the branch can be difficult. If you get better discipline in NITs, then you can try that.

@ Yashas,
There is around minimal increase (4%) in the number of students who secured 250+ compared to last year. This means you have very good chances of getting dual.

@Raja,
Comparing a college (which will start its first academic session this year) with established NITs is not correct. In such case NITs are definitely better than BITS-Hyd. What you need to look is the long term perspective taking into account few of these factors:
1. Course curricula
2. College popularity
2. Placement scenario
3. Alumni contacts
now judge yourself :)

@ Anonymous,
Well I am an E&I pass-out and I never faced any problems for placements, and its not the "hard working, less paying" career. Its infact as rewarding as any other discipline. I am surprised that bitsians have given you this info.

Anonymous said...

hi

i have scored 258 in bitsat. do i have any chances of getting a dual in hyderabad?. i have not applied for biology.

tarun said...

hi deepak,
i got 341 in bitsat and my pref go like this

cs pilani
ece hyd
cs hyd
cs goa
and the rest

i think hyderabad can surge ahead of goa in no time,so i took a gamble,what do u say????,im not at all interested in eee

Many in Hyderabad believe tht Bits Hyderabad is going to be the best Campus,so i went by them,i think the construction may not be complete when college starts but by the end of first year i think we can expect a world class campus,and then many wud prefer hyderabad ahead of goa in 2009 bitsat,

HYDERABAD IS A SURE BET because

more thn 75 percent of bits pilani alumni are andhrites,so they wud giv donations to hyderabad campus ahead of goa

many profs are geting transferred to hyd frm pilani coz of the weather and city

tarun said...

and any new profesor will prefer hyderabd over rest 2 because of the city and the clean image the city has

Hyderabad campus is the only campus to have ece branch,

Anonymous said...

i just saw in ur blog dat a CGPA of 7.5+ wil fetch us a csc seat in any campus acc to las yr..dealing wid a MSc ..,

so do u think a student wid a score of 270 in bitsat can be able to acheive this CGPA ???

kunal said...

i wanted to take ur opinion on the new iits. how would u compare it with bits(all campuses)? my elders r telling me to join new iits coz they hav an iit tag, also courses offered there are gud.i hav a gud chance of getting mech and even e&i at pilani. i am mainly sceptical abt the infrastructure at the new iits.
plz give an unbiased opinion, if u can give pros n cons of both it would be easier for me to decide.

DeEpAk said...

@Tarun,

Selecting a college based on city is not the only criteria, the establishment, experience and infrastructure quality is also very important. Professor might opt to teach in particular branch of BITS depending upon his interests and priorities but not solely based on the geographical location of the campus.

@Anonymous,
Scoring around 8 in BITS in my view should not be difficult if you study regularly with interest. I have seen many students whose BITSAT score was very low and they were able to score 9+ throughout. Also there were few whose BITSAT score was 350+ yet managed to scrap 7+.

@Kunal,
What your elders are suggesting is not doubt reasonable but keep in mind that your decision to choose a college should not be solely based on brand but various other factors. What you need to look is the long term perspective taking into account few of these factors:
1. Course curricula
2. College popularity
2. Placement scenario
3. Alumni contacts
now judge yourself :)
The new IITS will start their academic session under the guidance from other experienced IITs. The new IITs campuses dont have their campuses as of now. Also they havent mentioned clearly as how the transformation of faculty and induction of new faculty would take place. Starting of new IITs from this year itself, i felt was a little hasty decision from govt. Since you said that you would be getting E&I or Mech in Pilani, I suggest you to go for BITS.

DeEpAk said...

BITS Pilani Gets First Rank in Outlook Magazine Top Professional Colleges Survey !!!

www.newswiretoday.com/news/36015

TARUN said...

but deepak,iiit-h,isb got name only becoz of facilities hyderabad could offer

TODAY ISB IS LEADING MBA COLLGE IN INDIA

TODAY IIIT IS LEADING COLLEGE FOR CS IN INDIA

TOMMOROW BITS HYDERABAD WILL BE TOP ENGG COLLEGE IN INDIA

SO GUYS IF PPL WRITE ANYTHING LOW ABOUT BITS HYDERABAD PLZ IGNORE IT,
I CAME ACROSS FEW LEWD REMARKS THT VIT IS FAAR BETTER THN BITS H AND THT BITS HYD DOESNT HAVE GUD INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORT,JUST GIV A LAUGH AT THEM,COME AND SEE ITS CAMPUS THEN U WILL KNOW,

REMEMBER IF BITS GOA CAN BECOME BETTER, THN ITS OBVIOUS THT BITS HYD WILL BECOME THE BEST

TARUN said...

BITS PILANI MANAGEMENT IS WORKING VERY HARD ON DEVELOPING THE HYDERABAD CAMPUS COZ AN IIT WHICH IS COMING UP SOME 80 KMS FRM THE CITY WILL OVERSHADOW BITS HYDERABAD,SO TO STAY IN COMPETITION BITS HYDERABAD HAS TO GET WORLD CLASS FACILITIES WHCIH BITS MANAGEMENT HAS TO PROVIDE AT ANY COST,

IT CAN AFFORD IIT HYDERABAD TO OVERSHADOW BITS HYDERABAD

SO GO AHEAD AND GIVE HYDERABAD SECOND PREF OVER GOA LIKE ME,

PERSONALLY I DINT CHOSE GOA IN MY PREF LIST COZ I DONT WANT TO BE RELATED WITH BEACH AND BOOZE,

TARUN said...

SO ONLY ADVICE TO DEEPAK AND OTHERS IS "DONT UNDERESTIMATE BITS HYDERABAD" ,

AS U TOLD

1. Course curricula
2. College popularity
2. Placement scenario
3. Alumni contacts

1.COURSE CURRICULA IS SIMILAR TO THAT OF BITS PILANI SO NO QUESTION ARISES THERE

2.COLLEGE POPULARITY,BITS HYDERABAD IS IMMENSELY POPULAR IN ANDHRA PRADESH AND AS U ALREADY KNOW MORE THN 75 PERCENT OF BITS PILANI STUDENTS ARE FRM ANDHRA PRADESH.

NEARLY 20000 ASPIRANTS TOOK BITSTAT FROM ANDHRA PRADESH,OUT OF 100000,IT MEANS SOME 20 PERCENT ARE FRM ANDHRA PRADESH

THIS TIME BITS HAS ADDED ONE MORE TEST CENTRE FRM ANDHRA PRADESH DUE TO ITS POPULARITY IN STATE

3.PLACEMENTS SCENARIO - CANT COMMENT MUCH BUT DUE TO HYDERABAD BEING A SOFTWARE HUB AND A MAJOR PROJECT LIKE FAB CITY COMING AROUND THE CITY THERE IS NO NEED TO WORRY,

4.ALUMNI CONTACTS - I DONT KNOW WAT DEEPAK MEANT BY ALUMNI CONTACTS,BUT TO SAY BITS PILANI HAS VERY LARGE ALUMNI NETWORK CALLED BITSAA,DEEPAK MIGHT BE KNOWING THIS


AND AS FAR AS INFRASTRUCTURE IS CONCERNED,AS FAR AS I KNOW,EVRYTHING HAS BEEN FINISHED,BIT HAS EVEN APPOINTED PHYSICAL DIRECTOR WHICH MEANS THT EVEN PLAYGROUNDS ARE ALSO COMPLETE

SO AL THOSE PPL WHO CRY THT "BITS GOA IS BETER THN BITS HYD" PLZ STOP THT CRY OR CHANGE THE TUNE

AND AS DEEPAK SAID NITS ARE FAR BETER THN BITS HYD,

LEMME CHALLENGE HIM,"STAY IN BITS HYD HOSTEL ONE DAY,THEN GO AND STAY IN ANY NIT HOSTEL ONE DAY"
U CNT DARE TO ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE

AS FAR AS HYDERABAD IS CONCERNED,W
IT TOOK JUST 8 YEARS FOR ISB TO OVERTAKE IIM AHMEDABAD,THERE WERE MANY MBA COLLEGES SETUP,Y EVEN BITS HAS ONE MBA COLLEGE IN PILANI,DO U THINK IT WILL BECOME AS SUCCESFUL AS ISB

kunal said...

@tarun
u can't say that isb developed its name bcoz of its location don't underestimate the work done by the faculty and students. another reason for its overtaking iim's is due to the criteria that only people with 5yr experience are allowed. this thing matters a lot as some of my seniors tell me that they find it very diff. to cope with ones with work ex. ur idea that it's bcoz of of its location is pretty stupid.

tarun said...

ok kunal,leave ISB,why iiit allahabad dint get the same name as that of iiit hyderabad
Hyderabad is a educational Hub and if u still cant accept it then i leave it to urself,

Hyderabad was chosen so as to make bits hyderabad a world class institute

Anonymous said...

i got 230 in bitsat 2008 do i have a chance of getting in BPharm(hons) or any of the MSc(hons)?

kunal said...

@tarun
well i agree to a certain extent with u. i personally fee few yrs but not pilani in even a decade.and in a decade a lot of changes can take place, hyd being a software hub now might not remain in d future or something. u can't bank on this factor for choosing a college b/w pilani and hyd. though hyd. over goa might not be a bad option.
all this is my view, some might not agree.

sid said...

hi sir

i got 295.any chance of an msc(hons) in goa or pilani..pl help

kunal said...

@ tarun & others
srry for the above reply being badly wrtten. i ate away quite some words.
tarun i felt that u were taking bits hyd. above pilani, but the idea of hyd above goa might not be a bad one seeing that both are comparatively new .
p.s: don't associate bits goa with party and booze, its a general misconception among a lot of parents.there are strict guidelines from the campus related to time limits.like 10.30 is college lockdown whereas 11 is hostel deadline.

tarun said...

it cant overtake pilani,i accept tht but it can be seeen as equal to pilani,or a little les thn tht in future,

overtaking pilani is also a option which cant be ruled out

iit kharagpur was started first,but now its the students last choice

tarun said...

placements wise also now many iits are scoring far better thn kharagpur,

so kunal put un money on hyderabad,i assure u tht you wont lose even a penny

and as far ur views on hyderabad is concerned,it might not be a software hub a life long,but its far bettter thn goa and pilani(village) in case of number of companies..

tarun said...

it cant overtake pilani,i accept tht but it can be seeen as equal to pilani,or a little les thn tht in future,

overtaking pilani is also a option which cant be ruled out

iit kharagpur was started first,but now its the students last choice

Anonymous said...

hai, sorry for asking again i got 230 in bitsat 2008 do i have a chance of getting in BPharm(Hons) or any of the MSc(Hons).i am in a hurry as i have to pay fee for other colleges.please give a reply as soon as possible

tarun said...

@anonymous

no chance

DeEpAk said...

@Anonymous,

Chances are very bleak. If you are getting a good stream in other college, verify abt the college before finalizing on it.

ashish said...

hii deepak,

what are my chances at 245 4 any one of the bits courses except B pharma and msc biological sciences

Anonymous said...

hi,

i've scored 273 in bistat this year.
after looking at the statistics of this yr's bitsat,i was a bit worried..
Can I stay confident that i can get any discipline in bits apart from B.Pharm&Msc.Bio-sciences in any campus at first iteration itself ??

plz reply as i don't have any hopes on other entrances..!!

vardhan said...

@ anonymous at 273 it is hard to get anything in the first iteration.. last year's cutoff for 1st iteration was 304 (not for sure) and that of 2nd iteration was 285..this year it may be around (guess)300-290 and 285-270 for 1st and 2nd iteration respectively ..you have to wait till 2nd iteration.. many will drop out after first iteration..these marks are good enough to get your desired courses(last year cutoffs were around 260), be confident..

jatin said...

hi,
my score in bit-sat-08, is 277 and i want to take Msc(hons) in mathematics at pilani so that later i can opt for dual degree.last year the cut off for it was 293,so do you think i have got a fair chance to get in there?

thanks a lot for ur support

DeEpAk said...

Hi Jatin,
Vardhan has already replied for a similar question. I hope it will clear your doubts.

Good news !!
I am glad to announce that I am going to start another dedicate blog which will have information on many other aspects like electives, placements, extra-curricular activities, rankings, higher studies etc. I might also cover other reputed colleges, admission criteria, counseling etc soon. This post will also be shifted to the new location. Keep watching this space for the link !

Anonymous said...

RESPECTED SIR,

I HAVE SCORED 328 IN BITSAT. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW OF IF WOULD BE ABLE TO GET MECHANICAL, PILANI ANF IF SO, AFTER HOW MANY ITERATION WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE? IS THERE ANY CHANCE FOR ME OF GETTING E&I OR EVEN EEE IN PILANI?

FROM DJ

DeEpAk said...

Hi,
You have fair chance of getting E&I or Mech in pilani but not sure on the interations..

Anonymous said...

hi, I got 240 marks in bits.do i have any chances in it.pis inform me &advise me to join it or not.

alok said...

hi
how do u rank cs at
it-bhu,iiit hyd,bits pilani
as iam confused what to take

ashish said...

plzzzz answer me

my chances at 245 for any of the courses in any of the campuses except B PHARMA and MSC BIO

do tell me

Anonymous said...

@vardhan,

260 was the cut off for b.pharm rite ??

i've filled only the FES form...
so for 273, can i be selected for ne FES discipline ??

Anonymous said...

@ alok

cs is best at iiit hyderabad.it is said to be the mecca of cs in india.if u can get there take it.

Anonymous said...

hi
can u pl explain me the funda of 5 iterations and more over during my exam i appealed for some questions as i felt there were no right ans in given options,so how will i know my final marks as nothing abt it is said on there site
thanks a lot for ur help

DeEpAk said...

240 is little low score and even if you get into BITS, I am not sure which branch will come for you. Getting a MSc or BE looks difficult. You can better try other colleges till the results are out.

@Alok,
One of the student has asked the similar question. Please read the comments are search for similar queries. :). I am posting the reply the same here:
Few IIITs like IIIT-Hyderabad has good infrastructure for Computer Science and their placements are also very good. But such institutes deal with only specific engineering branches like computer science, electronics etc. They may not enjoy the benefits of being with other disciplines like mechanical, chemical. This could be one of the disadvantages as the scope of your learning will then get reduced to only few branches. Few of my friends in BITS chose electives like portfolio management, print and advertising, theory of relativity, gandhian philosphy etc., The fruits of belonging to such institute will be seen in the long run. This may not be possible at IIIT-Hyderabad. Also the benefit of workshops, festivals, conferences related to varied fields will not be available at such institutes. If you are strictly concerned about only computer science and placements then IIIT-Hyderabad can be a better option.

DeEpAk said...

Iterations are similar to counseling sessions. Few students opt out of the BITS admission process at a later stage and those seats become vacant. Another round of iteration is done to fill those seats. The number of iterations depend upon how many seats are vacant after the previous iterations.

DeEpAk said...

GOOD NEWS !!
I am glad to announce that I am going to start another dedicated blog which will have information on many other aspects like electives, placements, extra-curricular activities, rankings, higher studies etc. I might also cover other reputed colleges, their admission criteria, counseling etc soon. This post will also be shifted to the new location. Keep watching this post for the link to new blog!

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

hi,

i have scored 257 in bitsat? i have not applied for biology but have applied for all the other courses. what are my chances of getting anything after the first iteration?

career advocate said...

257 is a good score. First iteration might not fetch you the desired branches but further iterations can get you one of the MSc branches.

vardhan said...

good work deepak (or career advocate) .. this blog might clear the doubts of the people who aspire to become BITSians (evEn i am one of them) .. MANY PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED OF THE WORD ITERATION ...here i am attempting to clear it "supoose a candidate got around 300 marks in the exam he might fill the form in the order as shown in the original post ....then in the first iteration he might get some m.sc couses or even can be plased in the waiting list 1] if the candidate gets any branch (in the 1st iteration) and he wishes to join the the institute) the he has to send the DD of required amount .. then he is considered for 2nd iteration in which he might be promoted to a higher coursebased on his preferense list and availability of seats ( based on some comments by seniors many of those who got seats in IIT or AIEEEE and also higher marks in BITSAT also aplly for BITS whichaffects the position of the candidate in the 1st iterattion .after it many of them will drop out ) 2]IF THE CANDIDATE IS PLASED IN THE WAITING LIST and he wishes to join the institute THEN he has to send Rs. 12000 ..then he will be considered for the 2nd and further iterations ....IN THE DUE COURSE IF SOME WILL DROP OUT then he might get further advanced .. based on experience of seniors the disipline that a candidate gets in 2nd iteration is almost final... " @DEEPAK PLEASE GIVE THE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN CHEMICAL ENGINEERING @ CUTOFFS last years cutoffs for 1st iterartion is 304 and that of 2nd iteration 285.. final cutoff is 260

DeEpAk said...

@Vardhan
That comment should clear the doubts related to iteration for many students. I advise other students to use this blog as a platform and help other students in clearing their doubts and also get your doubts clarified. Employment opportunities in Chemical engineering are good. Companies like Schlumberger, BORL, IOCL etc are core chemical companies. Apart from these they also get placed in infosys, wipro, satyam and other software companies. kepp looking the placements post. I shall post more content on this soon. this is the link:
http://careeradvocate.blogspot.com/2008/06/placements.html

Anonymous said...

hey ,i have got a question
now in the second iteration if i get a branch and i would like to join it rather than going for further iterations ,that is for eg my score is 310 and i have got mechanical at pilani in second itration and in my priority list i have given cs hyd above mech pilani,but now iam not interested to do cs,
so can i just take mech and stop going for further iterations,

thanks a lot for your help,hope u understand me

vardhan said...

@anonymous according to bits website there is no provision for changing after 2nd iteration ... after 3rd iteration those students who got in BPPC, BPGC HAVE TO REPORT TO THE ADMISSION ..(if interested) there will be another registration process during which you can lock the campus but you can't lock the courses of higher preferences(given in your preference list)... if you get something in HYD campusreporting time is only after 4th iteration ...however bits have given one more choice to change the order of preferences ...but dead line is over ...so nothing to do.. @ tomorrow is the day of 1st iteration ..... i am a little bit tensed ...best of luck every one...

Anonymous said...

ok then actually wat happened is that i have given mech hyd and goa above msc maths(pilani) but now iam more interested in maths ,and i think i will cross both theirs cut off, so now is there any way out

Anonymous said...

and by the way can u pl exlain me abt lockig up d college and will it be useful to me

Anonymous said...

campus*
and sorry for troubling you

vardhan said...

@everyone finally the first iterations results are out ..... i got a terrible shock by seing the cutoffs 1st iteration cutoff is 267 and waiting list cutoff 251 (against 304 of first iteration last year) ...every prediction proved wrong ... my sore is 312(+4 due to corrections) i got M.SC CHEMISTRY @ PILANI CAMPUS which is my first choice among m.sc courses.....i did not expect this .. the final dutoffs might dip even upto 230-235 @anonymous during registration there is a provision to lock campus .this helps to decrease inconvenience to the candidate to travel from one campus to another campus.. post your score and the course

DeEpAk said...

The cut-off BITSAT score for admission to any of the Integrated first degree programmes, after Iteration I, is 267.
The cut-off BITSAT score for waitlist is 251.

So all those students who were anxious about cut-offs, its time for your prayers to be answered !
@Vardhan, First of all congratulations for making into BITS. please do not get disappointed by scores and also i hope u will get into better preferences after the other iterations conclude.

@Others, i suggest you to post your scores in the post: http://careeradvocate.blogspot.com/2008/06/shortlisted-candidates_26.html

Lets have a separate space where will can post our scores.

vardhan said...

@deepak i am noT at all DISSAPPOINTED i think i will definitely make it to mechanical -p or chemical-p or ECE-H or EEE -H which are higher in my preference list.... I AM GOING TO BE A BITSIAN...... THANKS DEEPAK FOR YOUR ADVICE AND THOSE VERY HELPFUL REPLIES

DeEpAk said...

@Vardhan, Good! That's the kind of spirit a BITS aspirant should have. Now that u are assured of getting seat in BITS, i feel you should also help other bits aspirants the same way. :). I suggest you to help the other students who facing difficulties in understanding the BITS admission process. Thank you and congrats once again !
Use this post for further discussion on iterations and admissions:
http://careeradvocate.blogspot.com/2008/06/shortlisted-candidates_26.html

Anonymous said...

hai,
i got 230 in bitsat2008 now that the cutoff is given for 1st iteration,do i have a chance of getting into BPharm(hons) or MSc(hons) in any of the next iterations.please give a reply as soon as possible.

vardhan said...

@ANONYMOUS
230 , in my opinion, willnot fetch you any thing in bits as the cutoff for first iteration is 267 and waiting list is 251 ...keep your other options open and try to get into them... but don't no how luck favours you ...if you can get anything in bits it's possible only after 3rd iteration.... sorry for the delayed reply..

DeEpAk said...

Good news guys !!
First review on BITS-GOA !! Have a look !!

http://careeradvocate.blogspot.com/2008/07/bits-goa.html

nitisha said...

hi deepak
cn i expect msc maths in any f da branches in the 2nd list on 13th wid a score of 279???

i gt thru elec in nit raipur n last date 2 take admn der is 20th..
which 1 shud i prefer incase i dont make da cut on 13th since i havnt aplyd 4 chem ,eco n bio

vardhan said...

@nitisha
at 279 you will have a good chance of getting m.sc maths in goa or hyd..if the luck favours you even in pilani.
are you placed in the waiting list..?
give your order of prefernce so that we can get an idea..
don't know about nit -raipur but m.sc maths is certainly a good one
as many students prfer CS with it.

nitisha said...

comp---p g hYD
elec-
mech
civ
msc maths
msc phy
msc tech info. p
B.E.chem

vardhan said...

you have a good chance of m.sc maths -h
by second iteration. all the best.

DeEpAk said...

Hi,

I request you guys to go through this post: http://careeradvocate.blogspot.com/2008/07/target-bits.html

and put in your comments..

I need vardhan,shailen,raja,kunal to post their stategies for BITSAT :)

Anonymous said...

hey my bro got IS in Pilani but can get Cs/EEE hyd in next iteration.. can u tell me which one ll be better

Anonymous said...

my score is 259 what can i get after 3 or 4 iteration i did not apply for msc bio or bpharm

vasishta said...

hello sir i got 246 &i got b.pham(hons) at hyd can i get any of msc(hons)orbe(hons) cources at any of the campuses

Anonymous said...

hi sir
i've got msc(tech) information systems in goa, can i make a shift to an msc(hons.) course after 1st year & then get a B.E dual with it.my score in bitsat2008 was 274 but i didn't fill the msc(dual) courses due to lack of awareness
& i've been told that msc(tech.)IS
is a good course with good placements... is this true??.i've no specific interests & i request a quick reply as i've to report on 8/8/08.
thank u
udayan

DeEpAk said...

@Bourne Returns, IS in pilani is well established so will be better. For more info check this: http://careeradvocate.blogspot.com/2008/07/cs-is-in-bits.html

@Anonymous, please be more specific and mention you pref order so that we can discuss about it.

@Vasishta, Chances are very less but u can give a try. For MSc courses the cut-off may not fall to those levels.

@Anonymous, check this link: http://careeradvocate.blogspot.com/2008/07/cs-is-in-bits.html

vasishta said...

hi sir i got B.pham(hons) at pilani campus after 4th iteration can i get msC(HONS)economics inthye later iteration
i was not knowing about the dual degree earlier so i preferred B.pham to msc biology
iam intrested to do engineering
what should i do now
please guide me

sneha said...

Sir, wat must be my minimum score to get into electronics and communication or electronics and instrumentation to get into GOA or hyderabad campus?I have my BITSAT on June 3rd .I am bit tensed.Wat can I do?

venkat said...

hi ,

this is venkat
ihave scred 302 in bits n have got e&i in goa
is it a gud option
wat r mah chances of any 4 yr. course in pilani in 4th iteration
should i regret 4 opting goa over hyd coz i cld hav gt eee in hyd

Anonymous said...

sir i got 259 in bitsat 2013 i am expecting b.pharmacy at hyderabad but i dont know what career lies ahead if i do this b.pharmacy. so how good is b.pharmacy tell me.

and is there any chance that i can get a a seat in information systems in bits hyderabad if there is a chance please tell me.

Aishwarya Mahajan said...

can i get upgraded into computer science from EEE ? what cgpa will i need

Anonymous said...

Sir,your info on dual scheme is excellent.It has helped me a lot.
Yet I have a query for you. My score in Bitsat-2014 was 319,as a result I am not able to get any of the core branches in bits pilani.I have decide to pursue a Msc degree with a dual in pilani.I want to get an idea of how tough would it be to get CS as a dual.In other words scoring a cgpa of around 9 in first year.

Anonymous said...

hello deepak
I secured 297 marks in bitsat 2014, and i want to do a dual degree.
Could you sugest a few combinations of BE+MSc programs at the goa or hyderabad campus.

Anonymous said...

is mechanical eng place,ents good at pilani

Anonymous said...

My score in bitsat is 304 and my board percentage is 93.6. I have to fill up my choices and I have no idea how to choose.
I have scored a 100 in chemistry in the cbse board. What are my chances of getting through MSc in chemistry at the Pilani campus and then a dual degree BE at the end of the first year?
Do help! :)

deep sharma said...

can i get upgraded into B.tech. from B.pharma in bits
? what cgpa will i need

rajat said...

Get BITSAT notification on Govt Vacancy website.

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